356. Navigating Life’s Waves: Daniela Bumann on Flow, Mindfulness, and Joyful Living

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Daniela, such a pleasure to have you on today.

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How's everything going?

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It's such a pleasure to be on with you Sandy.

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Everything is going wonderful.

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Fantastic.

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Well, I'm excited to talk to you about not only your wisdom, but your book, Gliding You
Home.

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So, so interesting.

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And we're going to touch base on that in a minute.

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But how did you get to where you are today?

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Because I love to hear people's stories, because that's how we learn and grow, right?

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Absolutely.

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And don't we all have our story, right?

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And we are so influential.

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You know, I think sometimes Sandy, a story is like the spices of life.

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You know, you ever go into a restaurant and you're excited to eat the meal and then it's
all flat, there's no spices.

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You know?

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yeah plenty of times!

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I have to and I happen.

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I don't know how I happen to be Swiss, Sandy and and love to eat everything with hot
peppers and black pepper.

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But either way, spice of life.

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So I was born and raised in Switzerland and at a fairly early age, it just felt like there
was so much more to life than what I saw out there and what I saw that people live out

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there.

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Sandy, I felt like oftentimes people were just kind of.

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trotting along and just living what was programmed in the societal expectations and the
upbringing and whatnot.

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And I just kind of felt like, woo, vibrant living, I guess that is the name of my
business.

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And so I felt like I wanted to explore a little bit more about the world and the people
and the mindsets.

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So this kind of started me on this journey very early on.

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Sandy, you know, and I happen to have grown up with parents that were also entrepreneurs.

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And particularly my dad was quite left and right brain like I am also.

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And so he was very much into philosophy and the philosophy of life and the art of living
life, you know.

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So and when I was around 18, I decided before I went to

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to get my bachelor's degree, I decided to come to the United States and travel.

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And so it was quite the experience, you know?

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I felt like when we left Switzerland, it was a very, very cold winter.

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And one of my girlfriends lived high up in the mountains.

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As a matter of fact, she couldn't even take a shower because the pipes froze.

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You imagine that.

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I live in California now, so it's pretty hot here.

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East Coast and it's a problem.

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I see.

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I've lived through many frozen pipes in my life, so yes.

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So you do know what I'm talking about.

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But I remember my first when I first touch my feet first touched the floor here in the
United States in California in San Francisco.

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I remember the following day waking up and stepping out onto that balcony and seeing palm
trees for the first time.

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You know, it was in the 70s, which to us in January was like heaven.

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You know, now it's sort of a little chilly.

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living in California.

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But I remember, you know, almost the air felt softer, you know?

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It was just, there was just a different energy in the air I had not experienced.

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And I just felt like my spirit and my mind and everything just opened up to this adventure
called life and what was about to unfold during my trip.

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So what brought you to...

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Okay, because you talk about in your book that you forged a profound connection with a
highly intelligent and intuitive dolphin consciousness, unraveling the secrets that lie

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within our spiritual potential.

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How did that come about?

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Because that's what I'm really curious about.

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That's something that you don't hear a lot about.

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As I mentioned before we started recording, I've never spoken with anybody who talks about
dolphin consciousness, because it's very mysterious.

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Yes.

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And it is mysterious because now is the time.

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Now is the time for the wisdom to come forth.

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And believe me, I didn't plan on this.

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Just to put that out there.

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I didn't plan on this.

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So like I started earlier, Sandy, I've always been a bit of a spiritual traveler or a
traveler of,

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an adventure of the mind and possibilities, right?

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So I had written my first book, which is High Performance Without Pain, where we really
explored the different dimensions of the seven habits and how can you live life in the

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flow, right?

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Because having always been somewhat of a high performer, I traveled back and forth and
forth and back to Switzerland and did seminars, taking care of my parents.

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burning their candle at both ends.

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And so that also triggered a lot of physical symptoms, which is where the dolphins are
gonna come in in a minute.

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So that triggered a lot of physical symptoms.

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I had already gone through what's called somewhat of an ascension process where just like
a car, you can't go faster if you're driving a...

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a beetle car, right?

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You need to get into a Porsche.

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And that means everything inside your being also starts to upgrade your body, your nervous
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Well, during that time, I had experienced a lot of physical pain, a lot of nerve pain.

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So almost like a viral, I almost got viral attacks quite often.

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And so there was a phase where it was extremely intense.

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And even though I was used to regulating my energy,

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I could just barely handle it.

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And so I was in a lot of physical pain and what ended up happening was I just hit my
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I just hit my limits.

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couldn't, and nerve pain is a really eerie kind of pain.

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It's different than other kind of pain.

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And so...

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I felt myself really at my limit and as I was sitting and closing my eyes, I slipped into
this deep state and I literally slipped to the other side, to the other dimension.

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It wasn't a meditative state.

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There's many of us that meditate.

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We're used to going into these altered states, right?

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But this was literally, I surrendered and the resistance that I was holding on to

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as a human, right?

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We have this resistance.

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And so I just let it go.

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It was as I let it go, was like, woo, it just picked me up and took me to that other side.

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And it was, it's challenging to explain because it's so intense.

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And however, my first experience very much was

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the way I always imagined it would be in terms of unity, connection.

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The reality was very different.

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And from that place on, once I returned, it took me about a year or so to readjust to
everything I had felt because it was felt like so many of my filters were gone.

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And then when I came back into my body, I was like,

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my whole reality looked dull.

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And I'd always been someone that loved life for the most part.

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You know, I'm like the rest of people, know, some days are better than others, but I've
always loved life.

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And when I came back, I was like, well, this is a dull show.

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It was very.

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my word.

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It it it flabbergasted me.

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I mean.

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It absolutely flabbergasted me.

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then also I, because now I was traveling so quickly back and forth, I was afraid of
closing my eyes or going into these deeper states because I was slipping, you know, back

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and forth all the time.

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So that was of course also getting used to bringing that reality back into this reality
while being in the body, while still maintaining in the physical body.

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So.

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just pause for a second before you go on and explain to the audience what you're referring
to?

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I'm just guessing, can you just explain it a little bit better about what you're talking
about in terms of slipping into a different reality?

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Yes, as we're oftentimes as we are evolving as our consciousness is evolving, our like I
said earlier, our body goes through these changes as well.

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It doesn't just stay mute or dull or numb.

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It regulates itself.

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Just like if you're trying, if you're taking a plane and you go into higher elevations,
you can't go with a helicopter.

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So the body is going to go through all sorts of changes as you are experiencing that.

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And then you can go into these different plateaus and see higher and further.

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And for that, the body has to adjust to that.

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However, when we're going to the other side, many of the filters that we have when we're
human, they fall away.

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Just like when a person that's on the other side and they come back over here onto,
they're being born basically.

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They're being born.

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And so the veil of amnesia starts to fall over them and they can no longer remember what
happened on the other side, Sandy, because, know, right?

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right, because you're talking about when babies are born, I've heard, you know, they say
that they, they say, right, whoever they are, say that babies can remember where they were

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before.

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And then, yes, and then it takes a few years and they're not able to communicate with us
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the veil of amnesia gets thicker and thicker as we grow up and we can't remember anymore.

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And that has to be that way because it is human resistance and the ego that keeps us here
on planet earth, which when the person starts to surrender all resistance, what happens is

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that is then when the soul starts to release its spirit, the body follows and goes to the
other side.

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And so what happened to me when I went to that other side and I came back, I was somewhat
in a state of shock because of the reality, because like you just said, Sandy, there is

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the comparison to what is here.

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near, this wasn't like a near death experience.

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Did you start in a meditative state?

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Like how did that, I guess that's where I'm kind of confused.

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this was a near death experience.

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Yeah, it was.

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It's not what I associated it with at the beginning because it was so new to me.

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Because I'm an avid meditator, so going into altered states is very different than leaving
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Those are completely two separate things.

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For that one really has to surrender the spirit in order to transition to go over to that
other side and then come back with the messages as many people that have had near -death

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experiences have spoken about.

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Okay.

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So, cause I had interrupted you.

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I apologize.

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So yeah, if you can continue with explaining this.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, definitely.

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Yes, for sure.

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Okay.

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through that pain, and I've had that pain on and off throughout the years, that my body
and my spirit just let go.

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It's just, and it's something that just happens.

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You cannot make that happen.

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I was not in a meditative state.

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I was sitting on my L -shaped couch.

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innocently minding in my own business and off I went because I just couldn't handle it
anymore.

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then the information that I was given was so first I had to adapt Sandy to a different
reality of different things that I saw many things that I thought I knew were just no

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longer true.

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So there's a part there's a chapter in gliding you home a dolphin stream of a new earth
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losing your mind.

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And in that particular chapter, I talk about the experiences of what happens is when
suddenly your reality is in quotation, challenged, indirectly challenged, and what you

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thought you knew is just no longer true.

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Because now suddenly you're seeing dimensions and you see into the multi -dimensions that
you simply did not see or look into before because you were unable.

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Like I said, I did not necessarily choose that.

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I've always channeled to a certain degree being a sensitive and intuitive, but this was
different.

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And so at the beginning I was like, you guys want me to do what?

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Right?

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Channel this book?

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I'm like, you guys are crazy.

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I'm a corporate coach, speaker, life coach.

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Yes, I'm intuitive.

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Yes, I'm, I'm a sensitive, but you want me to do what?

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Well, you listened and you did it.

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yeah, so what, so let's dive into what you're talking about with connecting with the
wisdom of dolphins through their collective consciousness, which is our collective

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consciousness, right?

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I mean, it's all the same.

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Can you explain that?

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Yes.

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So what happens is that you were just saying, like I just said, you know, when I was going
over to the other side and then I came back and then I'm like, you guys are crazy.

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You me to write this book, to channel this book.

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It is because the time now is about us stepping into the seat of our soul.

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and living our life from the seed of our soul.

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Is that because we're now in the age of Aquarius?

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Yes, and it is time that we are moving into greater alignment.

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I'm not talking religion.

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I'm not talking political affiliation.

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This is really the survival of the spirit of the human race and recognizing.

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for months now, we're now in an age of survival of the fittest and it's not survival of
the fittest physically, it's up here.

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Yeah.

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So it very much then altered some of my viewpoints because I had already previously spoken
with clients about, especially with my corporate clients, because I do always have a very

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holistic approach, a very integrative approach being left and right brained, which really
then is exactly what it allows me to do is to work with the...

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with a corporate audience and over here with the more spiritual audience.

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And now through the book, I sort of had to blend all that like the infinity symbol, you
know?

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But this time in terms of their consciousness really is about realigning into the power of
love versus the love of power.

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Yeah, the power of love versus the love of power because we're seeing a lot of that right
now.

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as you know it.

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And right, we're heading toward elections.

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So very much the book, my first book was just a prelude to the second book.

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The first book is about the practical seven habits that really help you build the
personality, the character traits to start to live life, whether you are a corporate

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person or not.

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from a place of presence, from a place of judgment awareness habit, to from a place of
acceptance and belonging habit, through from a place, three, from a place of compassionate

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action, not just compassion, compassionate action, habit four and habit five, from a place
of equanimity and communication, in listening, in moving much greater into your own

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personal self leadership, self leadership, not other leadership, becoming, to falling back
into that realignment of what your soul was meant to be, do and have.

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So what are some tips, tools that you can provide to help people kind of...

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fall into that alignment.

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There's so many things that people, we've got our fears, we've got our limiting beliefs.

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I'm seeing a lot of that coming up now in people and the clients that I work with, lack of
confidence.

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But people, I feel like people are starting to ask the right questions.

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Because...

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Yes.

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People are aware, I feel like people are aware that there's a shift that's taking place.

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They just don't know what it is and they don't understand it.

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That's a great way of putting it, Sandy.

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I do think people are looking for answers in different ways now, because the old is just
falling apart, not just in the world, but even within themselves.

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And there is so much energy influx also that we're all experiencing together.

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We're not, as you know, we're not an island, right?

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So...

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I just this past weekend, in reference to your question, gave a retreat.

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It was called Dolphin Harmony Meditation and Inner Peace Alignment Retreat.

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And folks from many different walks, from the president of a college to just many
different walks, right?

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And it really is not about your education or anything else, but really about coming back
home to who you are as a soul.

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And of course, mindfulness is a very big key component.

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And I'm a big advocate in my coaching philosophy in regards to self -love and
compassionate accountability.

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So coming back into that place where you are acknowledging who you are, what your needs
are, where you're going, who you're doing it with, and why not.

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So being able to realign and bringing the focus back from external orientation, which is
the external dictating in,

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to internal orientation where you are moving from the inside out.

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And really just very much like the scale, finding your center before you go out every day,
before you write that email, before you make that phone call.

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Right, so constantly realigning yourself into yourself.

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I feel...

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Oftentimes we make too much of it.

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It's really meant to be much more simple, Sandy, much more simple.

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It's even really beyond the limiting, because I do all that, the limiting beliefs, the
this, the that, the other.

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It's really beyond that.

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It's really about, you know, ET,

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ET go home kind of a thing.

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It's almost like ET goes home and then ET goes, my gosh.

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I've not realized that that was here right inside of me all along.

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my gosh.

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It's really amazing because I know that I had very much a similar experience this year.

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And, you know, I've been doing this work for over 35 years.

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I know how to get myself, you know, I know all the tricks, the tools, all of that stuff.

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And I think I was aware on many different levels that everything is in here, but I hadn't
felt it.

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There's a difference because it was like I knew it on the macro level, right?

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We know.

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And you've been hearing it your whole life.

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Everything you need is within yourself.

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But you have to experience it.

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And until you experience that at a micro level, and it was so empowering to me, it was
like, wow, I thought I knew this all along.

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And I really didn't.

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Right?

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And so that's what I'm saying.

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It's very much about embodying this new feeling of being alive, of being part of the
earth, Mother Earth, as she's going through traumatic changes.

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We just had a lot of fires here in California.

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It was quite traumatic to the animals, to me, because I'm very connected to Mother Earth
and I could feel it was very discombobulating to me.

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But it's really the embodiment.

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So any practices that really help you to embody the authentic feeling you.

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Which leads me to something I just read during the retreat and it's called emotions as
messengers.

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Yeah, it's hard to see, but yeah, please.

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yeah, absolutely.

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Go ahead.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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So this is called Emotion, E -Motion Messengers, awakening and recognizing the real
feeling you.

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Feelings are your personal messengers helping you fine tune and navigate the terrains of
your life.

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They're meant to flow and move through you to keep you real and authentic on your journey.

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Don't shoot or disregard this precious messenger, for it only has your highest good at
heart.

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And the heart indeed is the guardian of your tears, allowing the river thereof to find its
own organic way to flow to and through you naturally.

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The tendency is to get too heady and allow the monkey mind to take over.

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pretending to be the big hero or sorceress or rescuer.

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When you learn to journal and recognize feelings such as, feel lost, I feel like it's
futile, I feel overwhelmed, I feel powerful, I feel energized, you allow your feelings to

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become part of your internal and emotional guidance system.

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and dialogue, directly communicating with you instead of cutting off your nose to spite
your face.

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An inner compass, just like we use to navigate throughout the waters of the ocean,
honoring our inner sonar and the ripples, the rippling effects we have upon those within

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our proximity.

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You're learning to trust and become the real

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between what is actually you and the preconditioned or preconceived notion of you, and the
noise chatter in your head, serving as part of your micromanaging, egocentric control

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system.

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But not for your highest good.

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This indeed takes practice.

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Yet it is so essential to not get lost in the muck and mire of your life.

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and evolution as you know it.

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Take heart, you are gaining momentum and personal power as you rise and shift through the
different gears of your own evolution, step by step.

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And we are by your side supporting you with grace, ease and peace.

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That was beautiful, beautifully written.

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Yeah.

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So we all want to be in that state of flow, the flow state.

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Do you have any golden nuggets that you can share with the audience on how to help
somebody find, even if it's just a little glimpse of that flow state?

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Yes.

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So the flow state is really good to first of all, look at from which state have you or are
you navigating your current life?

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Right.

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Depending on, you know, your audience or the listener to what age they are, right?

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Are you in your 30s pushing and chopping and moving everything forward?

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Right.

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Or are you able to learn to embody more of your human being through presence and
mindfulness of who you actually are?

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Because then the more you are being, the more you become your authentic doing.

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Because then it is symbiotic.

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It is one and the same.

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It goes back and forth and there's no division.

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There's no divide between the being you and the doing you.

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But of course, as a human, we separate those two often, right?

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mean, most people are human doing instead of human beings.

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Right.

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So paying attention to how you are navigating your current life is number one, very, very
important.

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And then recognizing how do you want to feel after you've accomplished something?

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Do you want to feel exhausted?

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Do you want to feel tired like it is futile or do you want to feel energized now?

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Being in a flow state Sandy does not mean you're not gonna work hard.

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No, no, that does not mean that.

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That just means you are living an inspired life guided by your spirit.

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You are living life guided from a joy flow state.

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You are living and working your life from the seed of your soul.

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first and foremost, sits in your belly.

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It sits in your heart, which is the guardian of your being.

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Yeah, there's a big difference between inspired action and just action and just taking
action.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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terms of steps, my my first book really, of the seven habits is more like a blueprint.

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High Performance Without Pain is a blueprint to helping the human.

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And I didn't know that, by the way, Sandhya, at the beginning, I had no idea to how these
two books were related.

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I'm like, what?

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I don't see it.

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And of course then later on, I realized what I've been coaching clients where it was
exactly the first step to this, right?

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Can be a little challenging if somebody just starts to read this only.

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And yet I've seen it happen, Sandy, I've seen it happen.

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Where I have a client that I'm reading a certain part of the book and they're just
starting to solve.

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They're just starting to get very emotional and saying, my gosh, there is hope.

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feel this moving through me.

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And that's sort of the impact that this book has is it's written in such a flowy state
that you know how the dolphins are.

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They flow.

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They don't know the beginning or the end.

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And when I recorded this book, because they wanted me to record to do the audio, I
realized that even a lot more sandy because try to read a book that doesn't have a

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beginning and an end period.

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per se.

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does, of course, but it doesn't because of the way they flow.

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so paying attention to certain habits in your life, what are the predominant habits?

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Habits are a great force of everything we do.

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And of course, if it becomes unconscious, now we're living an unconscious life.

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But to adopt and adapt the habit of

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presence into your day to day life.

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Learning to really fully become present within who lives on the inside and who is enacting
the outside.

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And how can I marry those two?

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How can I create a marriage between those two?

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So they can be in harmony.

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They can help to guide each other.

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not that

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outside will guide you, but your inner wise self can start to guide your outer self and
can go, come on, come on, come on back here, come back home, E .T., come home.

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Right.

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So so there are some very fundamental habits that I have in my first book, but presence
really being the foundation.

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And mindfulness, of course, is

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a big component of presence, become mindful in the moment without judgment of what it is
you are hearing, listening to, observing.

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And that then can open up a whole nother level of being present in your life and riding
the waves of your monkey mind as it's dictating you, right?

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which you continue to bring out him or her much more center stage from the seed of your
soul.

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Mm, beautifully said.

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Yeah, and when you said to be present without judgment, that's probably the hardest part
because our minds are always judging everything around us.

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And for me, I call it just practicing neutrality and looking at things from a neutral
place because...

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Yeah, because when you look at things from a neutral place, you're able to then, because
you're pausing, you're able to be like, OK, let's just look at this with neutrality.

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And then you can make an informed decision.

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that's not true.

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Yeah, it just is.

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It's just a cup.

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It's just a cup.

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No judgment.

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But well, we were the ones charging in one way or another way, right?

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So in Habit One, it's actually being a coach, very much about integration.

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So it's kind of written actually in some ways as a workbook, even though there is a
workbook and cards and a planner to my first book as well.

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But in Habit One, you start to kind of really dissect what is

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presence actually and why do I disconnect from the present moment and What are my own
specific symptoms of disconnection?

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How do I disconnect?

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How do I do what is my own signature of disconnection?

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right drinking sleeping talking Overactivity, you know, you name it what what folks do
right getting hyper

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instead of mindfully taking action, right?

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So then in habit five, which is equanimity and communication, which is what you were just
referring to, in that habit, you really learn much more of just like the dolphins create

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their own inner ecosystem that is harmonious and balanced.

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So with equanimity,

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You learn to bring that presence into your state of being where you can become much more
of the observer and then communicate from that place.

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Listen with equanimity and mindfulness.

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Speak with equanimity and mindfulness.

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But first, you're, of course, learning to do it for yourself.

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Like I said, I didn't realize how this first related to the other book, but then I got it
because it's like the human needing to learn not just do this or this, but this is the

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habit to practice.

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And in this habit, we practice this.

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And then when we're in habit three, acceptance and belonging, what are you talking about
belonging, Daniela?

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Right?

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How do I fit into the human puzzle?

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And what kind of compassionate action do I take?

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And then it appears just then am I able to have that greater level of equanimity and
communication where I can kind of step back and go.

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Right?

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The wise mind, right?

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And the struggle between the rational and the wise and the monkey mind, the reasonable
mind becomes much more balanced.

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Back and forth and forth and back.

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Right?

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Yeah, yeah, I tell you our minds are very interesting.

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It's beautiful, it's crazy, it's...

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and everything in between.

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Yes, absolutely.

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For sure, for sure.

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This has been such an amazing conversation.

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We're almost out of time.

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Is there anything else?

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Because we could talk about this for hours.

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Is there anything else that you'd like to share with the audience before we wrap up?

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Sure.

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So there is a chapter in the book called The Voice of Joy Flow.

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And so as we were talking in the beginning, what is the alignment process, right?

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So the alignment process is all about stepping back into your joy flow.

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Now is all of that saying you're not going to work hard, you're going to stop planning,
you're going to, no, that doesn't mean any of that.

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That just means that you are doing it from a place of greater joy and alignment in order
to take inspired out.

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In order to really get up in the morning and go, you know, wow, okay, I'm going to do this
Right.

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So paying attention to your joy is really important in that process How do you want to
feel at the end of the day?

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And if you don't mind, I'm not gonna read the whole thing, but perhaps I could just read
the first part of that voice of joy flow

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So if the audience is watching or listening, I'm encouraging you to close your eyes and
take one hand to put it on your heart and the other hand put it on your belly button.

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And just as you take a deep breath, breathe into your feet and ground with Mother Earth.

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And imagine that your inner body is an ocean of equanimity going back and forth as you're
learning to ride the waves of your tide.

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the voice of joy flow.

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I am your guide to eternity.

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And along the way we float, readily down and down the stream, merrily, merrily down the
flow, while releasing resistance to all of your human dreams.

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I am not physical in nature, but I am an energy of utter abundance, inviting all of you to
play day to day.

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It's not difficult, you see, when you have engaged all of your creativity and your multi
-sensory perception.

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You can then tap into the stream of what is alive momentarily, letting go of what resists
and is not conductive to that flow, and use it as the ultimate conduit around rivers and

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rocks or to actualize or materialize

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your highest aspirations.

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Inspirations that have been breathed into you from high above.

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Being in the flow is riding on the tail wings of your soul's ever -resence, listening and
tuning in to its call.

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In the most practical of affairs, as well as the more limitless and spiritual life
endeavors merged as one.

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Mmm, that was beautiful.

430
00:42:00,535 --> 00:42:03,039
Your voice is so beautiful with your accent.

431
00:42:03,039 --> 00:42:05,412
It's just, it's very calming.

432
00:42:05,842 --> 00:42:07,020
Thank you.

433
00:42:08,526 --> 00:42:09,513
was incredible.

434
00:42:09,513 --> 00:42:10,546
Thank you.

435
00:42:10,546 --> 00:42:11,791
Thank you, Sandy.

436
00:42:11,791 --> 00:42:13,347
It's a pleasure.

437
00:42:13,347 --> 00:42:14,248
much.

438
00:42:14,249 --> 00:42:17,254
So where can people learn more about you?

439
00:42:17,254 --> 00:42:19,687
Obviously, I'm sure the books are on Amazon.

440
00:42:19,687 --> 00:42:28,129
And then can you just shout out your website and anywhere else that people can get a hold
of you?

441
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:29,641
So I have two websites.

442
00:42:29,641 --> 00:42:42,892
My first website is vibrantlivingnow .org and that's vibrant just like the word living and
then n -o -w .org not dot com.

443
00:42:42,913 --> 00:42:50,139
And on it you can find out more about my programs, my coaching, retreats, anything of that
nature.

444
00:42:50,500 --> 00:42:53,282
And you can also order the books there.

445
00:42:53,282 --> 00:42:55,570
The audio, like I said, is available.

446
00:42:55,570 --> 00:42:56,741
for both books.

447
00:42:56,741 --> 00:43:01,844
And it's kind of nice because people enjoy my voice and the energy that it carries.

448
00:43:01,844 --> 00:43:08,630
So they often feel energized and yet calmed and soothed simultaneously.

449
00:43:08,630 --> 00:43:10,636
Yeah, yeah, for sure.

450
00:43:10,636 --> 00:43:15,758
And then the second website, my keynote speaking website is Daniela.

451
00:43:15,758 --> 00:43:26,023
That's D -A -N -I -E -L -A, Buman, B as in boy, U -A -N -N, danielabuman .com.

452
00:43:26,523 --> 00:43:31,245
And that's for my keynote speaking engagements.

453
00:43:31,486 --> 00:43:35,947
So, but I am on Instagram, LinkedIn,

454
00:43:39,314 --> 00:43:43,630
where else that's a tick tock, not that often.

455
00:43:43,630 --> 00:43:52,701
So feel free to, yeah, it's, I like to put out content and make it more quality and less
often.

456
00:43:52,701 --> 00:43:55,504
So yes.

457
00:43:55,623 --> 00:43:56,543
exactly.

458
00:43:56,543 --> 00:43:57,103
All right.

459
00:43:57,103 --> 00:44:01,705
Well, thank you so much for joining me today and for the audience.

460
00:44:01,705 --> 00:44:03,685
Thank you for listening.

461
00:44:04,086 --> 00:44:11,888
And I hope that you and your family stay healthy and safe and that your lives are filled
with peace, joy and happiness.

462
00:44:11,988 --> 00:44:13,849
And take care, everyone.

463
00:44:15,409 --> 00:44:16,630
Thank you.