248. Unleashing Your Artistic Potential: Insights from Vivian Nicole Tesler on Music and Self-Discovery

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Vivian, Nicole, Tessler, so excited for this conversation. How are you doing today? Beautiful. You are just like this ray of sunshine. I'm doing so, so great and thank you so much.

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I mean, beautiful, kind words, but thank you so much for having me on. I just have to say how grateful I am and how also excited I am to be having this conversation with you. Well, thank you. I love talking to artists because I was one of those who dreamt about being on stage and singing, but would never in 1000 years get up on stage and do it. It's so funny because I've been asked the question so many times when did this start for you and how did you get into this?

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I always say that when you're an entertainer or an artist, it's a calling. It's something that happens. For me, it happened at the age of ten years old when I discovered my voice, but I was a dancer prior to that. I started dancing at the age of six. So it was something that really it was always there.

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And my story of how I started singing was kind of funny, but yeah, I know. And I actually have all my friends, my closest friends are not entertainers, so they always are in awe of how this is possible. But then when I go into the theater world, everybody's sort of the same, but my best friends, they're like, I don't know how you do it, I don't know how this is possible. Yeah, but you know what? Sometimes it's nice to surround yourself with people that have nothing to do with what you do for a living because you don't want to talk about it.

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It's true. And sometimes you don't want to be on. Although right and you just want to. Talk about the latest fashion, or what do you think about my new hairstyle? Or do you like this handbag?

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Mindless girlfriend talk is just like, we need that as women, right? Totally. Exactly. I think this is why I don't know, I started doing this whole trend of not having entertainment people be my best friends, but it started as a young kid where my best friends were not in it. So I think I was separated it, which was super interesting from a young age.

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But anyway, yeah, that was my interesting duality of a person. I told you before, I have like, 15 people inside of me, but that was my duality. And we're going to get to some of those people. I don't know if we can get to all 15. We don't have time for that.

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All right, so, Vivian Nicole, you're an entertainer singer. How did you get into it? You said it's a funny story. So can you tell us how this all evolved for you? Because you're really doing some great things, like worldwide, which is incredible.

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Thank you so much. Okay, so how do I even start this? It started for me when I was a young child. So my sister was actually put into a dance know, the simple ballet and jazz and tap. And my parents, who are actually immigrants, I originally am from Canada.

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They were immigrants to Canada from know, they did the standard thing, okay, we're going to put this kid in, and then we're going to put this kid in. My sister was awesome. She was super great. It was something that she really loved to do. But with me, it was something that it was very apparent that the way that it transpired was this kid needs to be a competitive dancer.

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It started in a dance school, so that happened at the age of six.

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I just was thrown in. I had one year of dance. I was thrown into the competitive world of dance, and anybody who's a competitive dancer knows what that is. And it just kind of snowballed from there where I found my voice, because dance and acting as well was in there, but primarily dance where I found my voice happened when I was ten years old. And I like to tell the story that I was kind of like the girls were in the change room and everybody was talking, and I was kind of humming to myself or singing a song like all kids do, very frivolously, not caring and what anyone thinks of you.

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And the kids started turning around. That's what I remember. And they were like, can you sing that again? So I did. Wow.

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And one of the kids, I think she may have started my career, I don't know. But one of the kids ran out to my dance studio owner and brought her in and said, you need to hear her voice. And so, wow, there was like a whole little audience there, and I just complied and did the whole singing performing thing. And that honestly, to cut a long story short, really snowballed into musical theater solos that my teacher said, this is something singing, dancing, acting. Let's combine it.

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Let's do musical theater solos. You can use a voice, you can dance. And that went on until I was about 18 years old. Wow. So that's the story of how it very primitively started.

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Well, it's one thing to be singing karaoke or singing along with the radio, but when you're doing what you were doing, which was acapella, a lot of really good and famous musicians out there cannot do acapella. Right.

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You have to really good voice to be able to pull that off. Thank you. I'm honored and humbled that you said that. The people that I always looked at, I was one of those kids that was an old soul. So this is very strange, probably for people to hear, but even at ten years old, I loved Liza Minnelli and Judy Garland.

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These were the people that I gravitated towards and held onto up until, you know, those old Hollywood legends, the ones that were doing that real, true triple threat know we do see today. But sometimes it gets lost in where the world is going. Well, there's so much content that it's exactly. Many times you don't realize that. Who was it?

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I was watching a movie recently, and it was Ryan Reynolds, and he started singing, and it was no, it wasn't. It wasn't a movie. It was like a YouTube clip that Ryan Reynolds did with oh, my gosh, can't believe it. He's so famous. And the name's escaping me because I'm really bad with remembering names.

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But it was just kind of like a little funny thing. His voice was right. Right. A lot of the times, many of them are triple threats, but they're entering the business through acting or singing. Gaga is a really good example.

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Oh, my gosh. I was just about to say I was just about to say Lady Gaga. Yeah, exactly.

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I remember even when I was auditioning as a young child, it was always like, what could you do? Well, I can sing, I can dance, I can act. Actually, later on in the game, it became, but what are you like, what are you? What one thing are you? And I'm like, but I'm all three.

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I'm the true triple threat. So that was a little bit frustrating. I remember later on. But now I found a way through writing music and creating my own little world where I can bring all three of those together. So I'm excited about it.

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Yeah. So I want to back up a bit because you said that when you were younger, you loved listening to some of these older triple threats that ten year olds at your age would not have been listening to. Yes. Right. And I'm guessing because as a singer and I think not everybody feels the same way about music.

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Like, some people just like to listen to it. I think everybody would agree we all love music. It affects people differently. Right? Like, for me, because I'm a writer, the lyrics are what speak to me.

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And then if you have a great tune or song along with it, that's even better for you. It sounded like you knew at that young age that it fed your soul. Like it was at a different level that you weren't even aware of. I could not, verbally properly put into words how much I loved it. But I think you kind of nailed it by saying it was in my soul.

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And I mean, that's exactly oh, I've got goosebumps. I know.

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Whether people believe it or not, kind of like a past life thing where I came back to finish the job or something. There was an old soul inside of me where I was really hooked onto people that know I was their contemporary but they were really far away from my childhood. Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey, I would say was even not even there. I would say Christina Aguileras and the Britney Spears were in my younger years, teenager years. But these ones know.

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Judy Garland was deceased already by the time I discovered. Yeah. Liza Minnelli was still performing but kind of know, a little bit slower and slower. And I you said, actually something very interesting about you're a writer and you, like, telling the story. The lyrics really speak to you.

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I was telling those stories on stage as a musical theater performer at a very young age possibly not really understanding what I was saying as opposed to understanding it today. But I was forced to learn those lyrics, learn those words and tell the story through performance. So there was that real big understanding, especially as somebody who started out in theater what impact storytelling makes on a.

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You know and the thing is, in order to you let's just lady Gaga, for example. And when just the movie the Star is Born because that was just you really saw her acting skills kind of come together with her voice. When you hear her sing those lyrics, it's so deep that you have to be feeling it. I can't imagine that it would sound that good if it wasn't really coming from your heart. Totally.

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And you're touching on a lot of really cool ideas because singing and songwriting, for me, came a little bit later on and I started as a performer, somebody who would sing and perform and emote other people's lyrics. And with the singing and the performing of other people's lyrics, the only way, at least for me, I could relate to it was relating it to something in my life. That's the way that I drew. Right. And with her specifically writing and performing those songs that's the beautiful part about being a singer songwriter is that you're not necessarily having to do what I did to draw that emotion from that's.

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The difference, I think, between theater and I think that's what we're saying with theater and singing and songwriting. But she had to do it on film and she had to do it in a way where but she did write it. So at the end of the day. Yeah, but yeah, I mean, it was just incredible. I have a couple of those songs from the movie on my playlist when I go jogging, and it's like penetrates, right?

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No, it's phenomenal. She's phenomenal. And she's grown so much even from the beginning, the trajectory has been huge for her. So, I mean, she's somebody I look at. I hope one day if lady Gaga, if you're listening, I hope one day yeah.

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She's someone I look at, though, because she's in my age group and I love her stuff and I love her and I think she's super awesome. Yeah. So what is your favorite types of music to perform? Like, if you could just blank script, blank slate. This is what I would be doing.

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With my single coming out very soon. I'm releasing a disco record. I saw that in your bio, but I wanted you to talk about it. So yeah. People ask me, like, why disco?

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It's something that I throughout even talking about liza Minnelli, her being a musical theater icon or a theater icon or a film icon and an icon.

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When I think of Liza, I think of Liza in the you know, when she was doing or portraying as Cabaret. And so there was that sort of synergy as to when I was like, where what decade do I feel the most comfortable in? Because I'm a throwback. I'm definitely a throwback artist. And it was something that I felt was the right space for me to be in, to introduce myself.

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It really had all of the elements of Vivian Nicole Tesler that would make a lot of sense when coming out to the world. Thoughts that I'm having, even for a secondary record, fall in line with stuff from the love jazz. I love it. I love it. Starting off in theater world, there is a correlation there, but we need to see where this goes.

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And I would probably want to talk about that later, but, yeah, that's sort of where my head's going. And I think what people need to know about me the most is that I love telling stories and I love telling historical stories, stuff from the past that people maybe in my generation, even people that are older than me or younger than me may not have heard. And some of the things that came into play in that time period that shaped us today, why are we where we are? Maybe it's nice to know a little bit about the past and not always maybe forget about it and kind of put it away. So I like to tell those stories, but I also like to be that throwback artist, that person that brings it all back and reminds people about where we came from.

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I love that because nowadays, just like with fashion, anything else, it's almost like anything goes, right? And you're certainly seeing that today in the music industry. And you hear new I just heard a new cover out, which was actually really good, but it was one of the songs that I grew up with. And of course, I'm going to forget it, but it was a remake of a song that was really popular when I was younger, and it was like, wow, but they did such a different twist. And I was like, I don't even know what to call that.

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Right. There was a little bit of a lot of different things in it and people are just being so creative and just putting things all together and it's like, wow. But I love that because I think of my son, who's Toby, 23 in a month, right. That he listens to Billy Joel. He likes Kanye West, I love.

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But probably the disco a you guys have so much.

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Different. It's very true, because well, now it's so easy to obtain it right. From back in the day up until right. Contemporary today. I was going to say something, but now my mind went like this.

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I'm sorry, I'm being contagious here. It's all good, it'll come back, it'll come back. I was going to say, I think something along the lines of I love when people become very creative with throwback stuff. I love it. I think it's amazing.

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It really introduces a new generation to something from the past, which is incredible. We're actually seeing a lot of it in 80s music, the 80s synth sounds that are coming out and I think the resurgence of, oh, this is what I was going to say. The whole disco thing. People also ask me why disco? Why disco?

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Why disco? I always say, and this was an observance that I had. It never left. It never left. If you go to a party and.

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You'Re, you go to a wedding, let's. Be there is disco, disco's there. And you have every age up on the dance, know, Diana Ross, her disco. Songs are some of the top plate songs at weddings. I don't have the statistic in front of me, but I'm sure that it's know, there you go.

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And then you have the yep, you got the it's always, always on, right. You know, it has not gone anywhere. But at the same time that disco beat is very much responsible to what we have today within electronica and house music. So that's where, okay, you know, why disco? Well, disco never left.

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We just gave it a different name. We honestly just gave it a different name. I talk about the late, there was the burning of the disco records. Right. In the late 70s, people had enough of it.

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But one little point that I want to say, which is interesting, I learned while I was doing my disco record, was that a lot of these 80s producers, they were like, okay, well, you don't want to listen to disco. Well, we're just going to sneak it right into that beat. And it's still there, right up until I would even say into the 90s. So, again, we're seeing the resurgence of, like, the but can we really say that it went away? I don't think we can say it really went away.

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Well, I grew up in the 80s, okay? And I'm the 80s girl. You're dancing like this. That beat doesn't go away. Okay.

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Right. How many different variations of a dance can we do besides the line dancing and all of that? So at the end of the day, you still have to have that beat that people dance to. It's so true. It's like the same beat, and everybody dancing is never going away.

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We're always going to be dancing to loud music and loving it. It's like the quickest way to make you feel better. Right? Endorphins. Yeah, endorphins dopamine right?

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It's the best. I don't know. There's so many things I can say. Like, why disco? Why disco?

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Why disco? Why I love it. Why do off? Why the things from the 60s? It's because it makes you feel good.

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It was good music. Yeah, you're right. So everybody has a theme song, I think. Or if you don't have a theme song, you should have a theme song. I have multiple ones.

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It depends on my mood. Depends on what day of the week it know, there's different theme songs that I love. What is your song that for like, one of the songs that I use, if I'm running and it's the last mile, it has to be bruno mars uptown funk. Right. And that just keeps going, and I just oh, and I'm able to just dig deep and finish that run.

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What is that song for you that can just flip that light switch from. You'Re going to laugh. It's not even in the genre that I'm going to say, but the first thing that came to mind I'm just going to say the first thing that came to mind, okay. Because I'm a competitive spirit and somebody that does not give up. Like, we'll find the solution.

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I will say lose yourself by eminem. Nice. Lose yourself by eminem. I don't know. There's something the words there's something about it.

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Well, the lyrics are phenomenal, but there's something about that that really speaks to me when it comes to getting to the finish line and getting the job done, like really making sure. Yeah. So lose yourself, eminem. Love it. I love that because at the end of the day, when you have your song, it needs to be something that speaks to you that the lyrics.

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I don't know, the whole like, it just kind of fills, you know, it gives you just it just makes you. Want to just conquer the funk. Uptown Funk is so great and I. Love isn't that great? I love Bruno Mars.

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I just saw him in concert. I just saw him in concert not that long ago. Talk about somebody who is, again, a throwback and again doing the triple threat. So totally. Oh, my God.

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Much respect to him. Love him. I can't even say it enough. I mean, at this concert, he sat down at the piano and was doing ballads. There was do op in there.

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They were dancing, doing the doop, dancing kind of like the whole line. He had his band because I love it when they use the trumpets. Oh, my God. I love it, love it, love it, love that. And the guys playing the trumpet, the sax and the trombone were dancing in sequence together and it was like, wow.

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But that's just incredible. It's where are we seeing this? Like, again, this is going back to back in the day. He's pulling from back in the day, which I know if I ever met Bruno Mars, there would be a meeting of the mind in the magic of yesterday in the magic of yesterday's music. So I love what he's doing.

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I know. And it's basically choreography and music together. It's incredible. Theatrical, but it's theatrical. Yeah, it's theatrical.

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Exactly. And it was a check mark on my bucket list. And unfortunately, you were not allowed to bring cell phones inside. I was like, I have nothing. Oh, my goodness, that's heartbreaking.

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My concert before that was Maroon Five and I had front row, center stage, and I have so many amazing pictures of Adam Levine that I have nothing of Bruno Mars. I'm so bummed. But what are you going to do? You have to respect his privacy and how he wants to do it. So this is happiness solved.

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So we have to talk a little bit about and everything we've been talking about is how music fills your soul. And it does. There's nothing, folks, that can flip this switch and help you feel better than listening to great music. So for you, because I've talked to multiple very up and coming successful musicians on this podcast and I always like to hear, what do you do? What is your way?

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Because it's a tough industry. Yeah. It's not easy. Right. Like, talk about survival of the fittest.

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Right? Yes. When you think about it and there's no overnight success, anybody there's no such thing as overnight success, anybody that seems like they get their success really quickly. If you look at the history, they've probably been doing this for at least 10, 15, 20 years. Absolutely right.

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So what do you do to keep yourself going? Because I think now, no matter what it is that you're doing, and I just like to hear it from different types of professionals because this is so different, and you're getting up on stage and the camera is on you, and you're in the spotlight, and that's a hard place for a lot of people to be. What do you do when you feel like you've taken a few steps back? Because that old saying, three steps forward, two steps back, and that's life, right? What do you do?

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How do you find that within you to keep you going? And what are some golden nuggets that you can share with the audience to help someone who maybe is struggling with giving up on their dreams? Right? This is such an important question for me, actually. Good.

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And I hope I can add value to so many people, because my story is interesting in the everyone's story is interesting, but my story is interesting in the way that I was doing this my entire childhood and young adult life, and I was doing very well. I was successful. Things were going in phenomenal directions for me. I was cast as a Canadian. I was cast in two off Broadway shows in was you know, I graduated theater.

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Did I check marked all the wonderful know auditioned in Toronto. I was booking a lot of wonderful opportunities know, at the beginning, after I graduated theater school, when I went to Los Angeles, I actually won a televised competition to get to the United States at the time. So it was not easy for a Canadian to work in the States at that point. Right. So I had won a competition, I think there were a thousand competitors, and I won top female vocalist, top female dancer.

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Wow. And that helped me get representation in the States. And that in itself was a like that was yeah. So when that happened, I was booking in Los Angeles, and things were wonderful.

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I ended up getting a ulcer, bleeding ulcer. We didn't know it was an ulcer at the time. I was very young. It was very strange, to be honest with you, because I was very healthy and I was eating. I was very conscious, and I wasn't doing anything that was bad for you, quote unquote.

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And my parents came and grabbed me after not knowing what it was at the time. Brought me back to Canada. And really, it's a long story, but to condense it, I decided at that moment that I wanted to maybe step back from the industry. Not that the industry wasn't being nice to me or good to me. I wanted to make that decision to step back from the industry and discover parts of myself that I never got to do or never had the opportunity to do when I was younger.

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And that led me down a very different path. So just to talk a little bit about that, I started my own business. I went to school to become a paralegal. I was actually considering law school at one moment, when that whole thing was happening, my father had asked me, I was in school, to become a paralegal. My father had asked me, we'll pay for it.

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Go to law school. Your marks are great. Go. They were always facilitating throughout my entire life, anything I wanted to do, whether it was performing or that. And I said to my dad, I said, you know, dad, I would be great at it, and I would enjoy it for a period of time, because I knew that artistic streak and that performer thing that was in your soul from when you were a small child, that does not leave you.

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Even if you try to escape it would ever go away. I knew that. I knew I would find my way back to the entertainment business, but I had to do the self discovery thing, which I'm super happy I did. Absolutely no regrets. It grew me as a person.

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It changed so many things about the way that I look at the world and how I conduct myself in the world.

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This is where I went on this little tangent, but this is where I think would be the most beneficial for people to hear, is that things were great, things were going well. I wasn't leaving the industry because I wasn't succeeding. I left the industry because there was something in me that I needed to see, I needed to find, I needed to grow. And by going down that path, yes, I walked away potentially from an even. I may have made it longer for myself within entertainment, but at the same time, I learned and gathered things about myself that I never potentially would have received in that realm.

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So now I come back to this space, releasing a record, deciding to reenter, reemerge into this space as a much more full person, rather than somebody who is completely streamlined into one thing and hasn't discovered parts of themselves, maybe later on in life, right? So, I don't know. I think that's really important. If something's calling you to go into a different direction and it's speaking to you, do it. Do it.

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In my opinion, there's absolutely no regrets in life. There's only learning, like learning opportunities. So it's really the way that we look at it and our perception towards our decisions, rather to look at something and say, oh, man, I'd made the wrong decision. I walked away from my dreams or walked away from my career, or did I walk towards myself? And now I come back as a fuller person, somebody that's able to give more in the songwriting space and more in the performing space, because now I know more parts of myself.

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So I think this is super important. I think that's probably the number one. Don't be scared. Don't be scared to learn or to explore or to dig, and then to really streamline into your question regarding about giving up. So that was me going on a.

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Tangent about how I kind of came back to the space. What I learned was when I went through all these experiences, this burning desire that I had to be on the stage and to finish the job had never gone away. And yes, I learned parts of myself. Yes, I understood things that I needed to grow and things that I needed to improve on in other realms, business being one of them. But I come back to it and I'm like, okay, now I'm a full person.

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Now. I'm Fuller person. There's always growth to be had, but I'm a fuller person, and I'm capable of giving and even receiving in a way that I wasn't able to do before. I love it. I just grabbed my phone because I want to quote something, and I don't want to mess it up because my memory, I'm already two for two of forgetting things while we're talking.

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It's cool. It's cool. Forgiven. Oh, thank you. There we so this just came up to wanted I wanted to make sure that I had this quote from Steve Jobs, because as you get older in life and this is what sums it up you can't connect the dots looking forward.

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You can only connect them looking backwards. That's perfect.

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And then it just says, so you have to trust that dots, that the dots will somehow connect in your future. And it's so true. And that's what you were just saying. Sometimes we have to do that. And I was saying it before.

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Sometimes you have to take a few steps back before we can go forward. Slow down to speed up. I'm at that phase in my life right now where I've been slowing down to speed up. I haven't been doing very many podcast interviews because I have so much content that I don't need to do any podcast interviews. Right.

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So I've just been slowing down, and I've taken a few months this year to just chill and just not really just pay attention to me. There's a reward in that. You did that. You created that. You made that happen.

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Right. So there's a little reward space where you can do that, and we need to give ourselves permission to do that. It's tough. Absolutely. For go getters it's tough.

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Yeah, very tough. Because I know for me, it's hard not to beat the crap out of myself. In your mind, you just start beating yourself up and it's like, okay, have some grace. It's okay. It's okay.

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You don't have to be this productive machine. Seven days a week, 365 days. We're not machines. We're not a machine. Our bodies are really cool machines, but they need fine tuning and they need rest, and our minds need rest.

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You asked earlier on about I really want to hone in on making sure people or at least I like saying adding value, not making sure adding value. Right. People starting out in the business that they don't become jaded and bitter too quickly. They try to find their equilibrium within themselves. They take the time to have a very good sounding board around them, have quality people around them.

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I have quality people around me that help me, that hold me up in those moments where I'm doubting myself like any other normal person has. They have moments where they doubt themselves and they have moments where they feel completely confident and they can take over the world. Right? But having that sounding board and that really good grounding is super important, especially for artists, especially for people that are bearing their soul, that are out there trying to share something very vulnerable about themselves. That's really important to have that equilibrium, that grounding, that space around you, those people, that energy around you that many people don't have, I find a lot of people are looking for, especially these days, they're looking for what is it, quantity versus quality?

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Yes. And for me, it's about quality versus anything. That's where I am and that's where I can create the best in a peaceful space. So I really encourage any listener to find that grounding, find that inner peace within yourself and make sure that you have really authentic people around you. It's important, especially in the entertainment business.

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Well, I'm so glad you brought that up because I've been talking a lot about this lately. Just in my circle of friends, I've been talking to my son about it because he's starting to learn this too. Everything in life, what matters most is who you surround yourself with. Right? It's very true.

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In the business world, have a mentor, have a coach, have somebody that's there. Who are you surrounding yourself with? Surround yourself with people who have gone before you, who have done what you want to do. How did they get there? Right?

00:37:32
Those are the people you want to surround yourself with. Exactly. Not energy stealers, people that are it took me a while to really have the nose, not to prejudge, but to not give it all away. I was giving it a lot all away at the beginning when I was a little bit younger. This is who I am.

00:37:57
I wear my heart on my sleeve and wear your heart on your sleeve, but have a little bit of nowhere. It's that arm distance length of like, who are you dealing with? But yeah, the ones that went before you and the ones that you admire, attach yourself to in the sense whether it's to listen to podcasts or to listen to anything online and not necessarily physically attach yourself to them. Right?

00:38:24
No talking, no stalking promoted on this podcast. But attach yourself to their wisdom and their energy and everything that they've encountered has a lesson in it. Whether we can take a little tidbit from it or we can't duplicate people's lives, but take those nuggets, those little tidbits from those people that walked before you. I was talking to my nephew, and he's in the stage right now where it's like he wants to win when we're having a conference. That's great.

00:38:59
I'm loving the fact that he wants to win, and I'm encouraging that. But I did mention to him, I said, it's time. Sometimes you really must listen to what the other person is saying to you and think about it and take that time before you respond to have that conversation and to have that thing sink in or synergize with you. And I find that a lot of people, especially the Gen Z's and the ones that are in that generation, I mean, everything's so quick and everything's so fast that we're not necessarily having those conversations and we're not necessarily watching or following or taking in from the older generation that has walked the walk. They're not just talking the talk.

00:39:44
They walk the walk. So I think it's important. I think it's important. I love that. I've loved everything that you've said today.

00:39:51
What is the name of your single that's going to be released soon? So my single is called Discomatic. Discomatic. Love it. Discomatic.

00:40:00
And the record is also the album is called Discomatic as well. Love it. Oh, my gosh. Is there anything else you want to share with the audience? And how can people what's the best way to follow you?

00:40:10
Oh, wow. So you can find me on Vivian Nicole Tesler. That's my handle. I do have a website. Same thing.

00:40:18
Vivianicoltessler.com and TikTok. Same thing, Vivianicol. Tesler. And I'm on Threads as well, which know, attached to my Instagram account. So you can know, find me and follow me.

00:40:31
Yeah. And I'm very interactive, so if you guys want to shoot me a question or talk to me about anything, I'm super open and just nice comments. People like really nice things. I grew up with my mom saying, if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it at all, period. Exactly.

00:40:49
I don't know what this like, but no, actually, I have to say that my Instagram has been so beautiful and the people that are following me are angels. Honestly, the nicest people in the world. So I'm really grateful for that. So all of my followers, thank you. Thank you, thank you.

00:41:03
You're amazing. And for everybody out there as an artist, it's the audience that drives us, and we're giving to the audience, and we're giving nuggets of information to the audience. And if it wasn't for the audience, where would we be? So I'm just grateful for that. And I'm grateful for you, Vivian.

00:41:23
Nicole. I'm so grateful for you, and I'm grateful for my audience because I am now ranked in the top 1% worldwide, and I'm so grateful for that out of 5 million podcasts. Yes. That is huge. Celebrate.

00:41:39
And yeah, you know what? Now you can take your time and kind of go back because you earned that. So congratulations. Thank you. Thank you so much.

00:41:48
Thank you. I'm following you on Instagram. I'm pretty sure I'm going to double check because I follow all the artists that I speak with because I want to be there as your cheerleader as you keep succeeding. So you'll see little Sandee in the. No, no, you're Sandee.

00:42:07
That's like the biggest.

00:42:12
Thank you. I appreciate I genuinely appreciate it. And I'm following you as well. So, I mean, we're going to be supporting each other through our journeys. Thank you.

00:42:20
Thank you so much, nicole, best of luck to you. Thank you.

00:42:34
I certainly hope that you enjoyed today's interview. Thank you so much for joining me. And as always, I hope that you and your family are healthy and safe and that your lives are filled with peace, joy, and happiness. Take care, everyone.